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    Posted: August/16/2011 at 15:29
Just wondering if anyone had any input on them?  U.S. made?  Worth a darn?  Would just like the good the bad or ugly on them if anyone has any input.

http://www.vixensportsoptics.com/

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Vixen optics is a division of Mister Star Guy! I felt no need to read any further.
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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Vixen optics is a division of Mister Star Guy! I felt no need to read any further.


Yeah I was a little sketched out by that too.Loco

Although I've found on some other sites where they have been compared with some of the more prestigious brands.

I only ask because I found a (decent by the MSRP) price on one used local to me.  About half of what it would cost new.
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I can compare a TP tube to a S&B but that does not put them in the same league. The TP roll is so clear you can't tell you are looking through anything. The TP roll has absolutely no loss of light transmission from lenses.  Big Grin BLA BLA BLA.
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Vixen is a Japanese company. They've been around a while. I remember seeing their name on binoculars years ago. I've never seen a Vixen rifle scope.

If a Japanese company that has been in the optics business for decades wants to make a rifle scope, my guess is that they have the contacts and resources to make a pretty good scope if they want to. On paper, it looks like they were shooting for a pretty good scope.

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Originally posted by Shenko Shenko wrote:

Vixen is a Japanese company. They've been around a while. I remember seeing their name on binoculars years ago. I've never seen a Vixen rifle scope.

If a Japanese company that has been in the optics business for decades wants to make a rifle scope, my guess is that they have the contacts and resources to make a pretty good scope if they want to. On paper, it looks like they were shooting for a pretty good scope.

 
Vixen may have had it´s origin in Japan (where their HQ still is situated) I´ve seen remarks and reviews regarding Vixen binos as made in China, I doubt that Vixen riflescopes are made in Japan, I bet they are made in China (Bosma optics is a rumour I´ve heard sometime)
 
Vixen - The best kept japanese optic secret ( the secret is that they are made in China)
 
Have I read that about Vixen, or was that another so called japanese company ????
If so, I´ll blame my age Loco 
 
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Like I said, I've never seen a Vixen rifle scope, but I just spent 3 minutes on Google and found 2 sources saying they were made in Japan.
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Shenko,

If you write "Vixen optics (or riflescopes, or binoculars) made in China" you can find a sh*tload of sources sayin they´re made in China.
 
That´s the problem with optics nowadays - You´ll never know.........
 
 
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I own three Vixen 4-16x44, and they are solid, well built, and clear scopes.
Mine are made in Japan. For the money, they are absolutely great!

Plus, if you look hard enough, you can find this model for around $200.
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Yeah but "Vixen" sounds tough. LOL. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tahqua Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/27/2011 at 13:54
No personal experience here, but they have been around for quite awhile in the celestial optics market. MrStarGuy is big on astronomy and the sport optics came out later. No big deal. There is a lot of info out there if you google and some is quite good.................carry on.
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Well, I was at the SHOT Show last year and was personally able to look at the full Vixen line, they were being distributed by Sun Optics.  The Vixen line IS made in Japan.  I purchased a 6-24 x 58 and it is PHENOMENAL.  Exacting box test.  Just the right amount of tension in the power ring and parallax knob, absolutely no detectable slop or backlash.  The lenses are super clear and bright.  There is virtually no glare that I can see even in harsh sunlight.    I have Swarovski EL binos and Zeiss BGAT binos, I have Zeiss Conquest scopes and Leupold LRT scopes and Burris Black Diamond scopes,  so I know what great to Best glass looks like.  And I shoot prairie dogs, glassing through binos and scopes for 8 hours a day in overcast and blindingly sunny days.  
The image is dead flat and clear across from edge to edge.  The image looks natural as looking with the naked eye.  I cannot see any hues that change the image brightness or add weird colors. 
This scope is easily comparable to a $2000 German scope.  Maybe more.   The designer knows that the big names are also made in the same plant in Japan.  I looked at Nightforce and S&B and US Optics... you couldn't convince me to spend 2-4 times as much money on them,....anymore. 

The only problem with the scope is that people badmouth something they have no experience with and unfortunately it influences others who take that advice and that multiplies.  

Ok, so maybe the name is not catchy or Cool sounding for us American snobs.  
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So, sun optics was sold last year and they reportedly discontinued the Vixen line.  I'm going to try to talk to the manufacturer to see if I can help them keep it or reintroduce it to the American market.

competitor has the scopes discounted now as discontinued, but they still have a lifetime warranty, but I bet you won't need it.  

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can you confirm Sun will honor the warranty?

I own some of the best,  all the way down to “okay” and I am always skeptical when someone claims $2k scope quality at $300. And, having been in this now for more than a few years, I have yet to have to say “I was wrong” in that skepticism.

Good luck keeping them around. The thread is 8 years old. If they were a diamond in the rough, I’d think someone would have noticed.

I did like Vixen back in the 80s. “Edge of a Broken Heart” was a decent song for a few chicks, not sure what they know about optics though.
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i mean this with respect.  But if they were that awesome and were better than $2000 scopes for 1/4 of the cost they would still be around.  A few people bad mouthing them would not take down the company. Just my opinion of course. 
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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

I can compare a TP tube to a S&B but that does not put them in the same league. The TP roll is so clear you can't tell you are looking through anything. The TP roll has absolutely no loss of light transmission from lenses.  Big Grin BLA BLA BLA.






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Originally posted by Swiftkill Swiftkill wrote:



The designer knows that the big names are also made in the same plant in Japan.



Sorry but that doesn't mean they are the same. Different design specs.
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I don't know what the company (Sun Optics)  is doing about a warranty or supporting the scope, as of this reply.  But, I will find out. Also, the scope I have is $950 on close-out, not $300.  And, I'll tell you the truth, I have used Alpen Scopes and binoculars for years and those were $350-500 and I could not really see a noticeable difference between them and other $900- $1000 scopes.  I have some that are 10 years old and shot the crap out of the rifles and "0" scope malfunctions.  I have a pair of their Shasta Ridge binos that have been left in my car for work for easily more than 6 years, in blazing heat during the day (because I'm too lazy to take them out every day) and they are super crisp and clear.  Okay, they are not my Swaro EL's, but they are 1/24th the cost and I can see just fine with them.  Anyway, I Have ADD and could go on all day.  

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I have an Alpine spotter that is quite good for the money. It goes to places I wouldn't take my much more expensive spotter. I have no issue with value optics.

There are great examples of high value optics for modest prices, the SWFA scopes fit that description, as do a few Althons and the higher end Vortex lines are a great value too. The difference, and this is important, is that the companies put the scopes out and let users decide if it is value or not.

You are looking at a financial interest in the company, meaning you might be a slight bit biased.

Keep in mind, people wander in at regular intervals to do just this: tout an optics line/maker while comparing themselves to very well established companies. Over the years, many, many people have joined to tell us how their scope or soon-to-be scope represents such great value that in a few years everyone will be selling all their other stuff to buy boatloads of their wares.

And, after many years of the same song and dance, it has yet to come true.

Maybe Vixen is awesome; the way to establish that is to send a few to reputable users and get their feedback. I see no such effort. So far.
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