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    Posted: March/15/2020 at 16:58
How does the ss 2.5 - 10 x 32 compare optically to the old conquest 3-9X40? does the ss have enough eye relief for the 308 ? also will the aero rail work on a remington r25 g2?  thanks

 

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I compared the 2.5-10x32 SS rimfire I have to my 4.5-14x44 Conquest. The Conquest is an AO and I compared it with the SS at 15 yards and 75 yards and both on 5x. On the bird feeder the Conquest had better resolution but the SS was no slouch. On ground feeding robins at 75 yards the Conquest contrasted and resolved the breasts against the dark bodies better. Again, the SS was not far behind. Both would had allowed easy shots. Not on robins, of course.

Eye relief was measured at 3 inches and should be no problem on a gas operated .308 from prone or offhand.

I’m very happy with this Ultra-Light SS and waiting to see how it compares with the 1.75-8x32 Razor HD that is 3x the cost. I already know I could make 100 yards shots on deer I was observing at ½ hour past sunset with the SS.



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that sounds good , i have looked at the razors , but have never purchased one. can you compare the conquest to the razor? Thanks
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I have the 2.5-10x32 mounted on my T/C .22 Classic and it works very well for my use. I like that it keeps the weight of the rifle down but is not a cheaply made optic. I wished I had bought a few when they were on sale. My boys are beginning to shoot pretty well with irons and I told them that when they can do that I would let them use an optic.
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Originally posted by cowski cowski wrote:

that sounds good , i have looked at the razors , but have never purchased one. can you compare the conquest to the razor? Thanks


Sorry for the late reply. The Conquest is definitely better in low light. It has a 4A and 44mm objective so it isn't really fair. It is at least 10-15 years old and is very good for what it cost back then.
I have yet to hunt with the Vortex. But with the ranging reticle, I am surprised to see how well it shows in low light. That is even with heavy cover. The the glass is also very good. I think the resolution stands out vs contrast in the conditions I just mentioned.
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has anyone heard anything about the SWFA being offered with a more practical/useable reticle?
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Originally posted by megalodon megalodon wrote:

has anyone heard anything about the SWFA being offered with a more practical/useable reticle?


What are you thinking that would be more practical/usable?

Personally I find the current offerings to be very useful for their intended use.
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This is a light weight hunting scope for big and small game. What would be more usable than a simple plex and a bonus reticle of a BDC holdover reticle. I can't think of any other reticles for a scope of this type.
Regarding the Aero rail, I'm not sure if the forward mount of the scope would work. I find the eye relief is fine on my gun. ILya has probably had one mounted that way on an AR and might chime in.
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I would think that it would make sense to put a reticle on an optic not made to dial that would allow for holds. 

The mil-quad would be perfect. Not sure why that wasn't the first deviation after the standard plex. They have the BDC which is designed for a specific cartridge, and can be sort of used for others, sure.

Why bring out a BDC reticle with lines a 2.1, 5.0, 8.5, and 10.6 moa, when you could just use something like the mil-quad and have it be universal for any cartridge?? 
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My experience with the mil-quad in the SS 1-4x24 SFP reticle, other than the center when illuminated, is poor for low light. The Ultra Light is SFP and I don't see where it would be an advantage on it for low light hunting, either.
Maybe for daylight hunting the mil-quad would be ok. I would like a 4A for a more useful rerticle.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

This is a light weight hunting scope for big and small game. What would be more usable than a simple plex and a bonus reticle of a BDC holdover reticle. I can't think of any other reticles for a scope of this type.
Regarding the Aero rail, I'm not sure if the forward mount of the scope would work. I find the eye relief is fine on my gun. ILya has probably had one mounted that way on an AR and might chime in.

I have it mounted on an AR in regular high rings.  I did try it with Aero mount and it worked fine (Aero mount gives a lot of scopes issues because of the oval rings, but seemed to work OK with the SS Ultralight).

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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

My experience with the mil-quad in the SS 1-4x24 SFP reticle, other than the center when illuminated, is poor for low light. The Ultra Light is SFP and I don't see where it would be an advantage on it for low light hunting, either.
Maybe for daylight hunting the mil-quad would be ok. I would like a 4A for a more useful rerticle.

The BDC reticle in the Ultralight is a little thicker than the plex reticle and works surprisingly well in low light.

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Originally posted by megalodon megalodon wrote:

I would think that it would make sense to put a reticle on an optic not made to dial that would allow for holds. 

The mil-quad would be perfect. Not sure why that wasn't the first deviation after the standard plex. They have the BDC which is designed for a specific cartridge, and can be sort of used for others, sure.

Why bring out a BDC reticle with lines a 2.1, 5.0, 8.5, and 10.6 moa, when you could just use something like the mil-quad and have it be universal for any cartridge?? 

They are planning to make a version with MilQuad, but with all the crap happening in the world, it may be a while.

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That's good to know about the BDC because I can see getting another one of these scopes. I do agree that the mil-quad  is generic and usable across all calibers. 
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I have one with a plex reticle. It’s a good scope on my howa mini action 6.5 Grendel. I use that rifle for walk-around coyote hunting so I appreciate the light weight. I’d actually prefer a simple uncluttered #4 with bold outer lines and thin inner ones. 
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Count me in on the Mil-Quad being a winner for this optic, especially since it's SFP. The Mil-Quad is great in the 3-15x FFP, I can't imagine it would be any less functional in the 2.5-10x. It's bold enough (basically a reverse 4A) to be used in lower light since the windage only goes out to 5 mil and still provide functional elevation holds. I would absolutely buy one right now as the scope currently sits. The fact that it's a 4x erector also makes the math really handy. My wish list for the the final product would be:
  • 36 or 40mm objective
  • Side Focus
  • Exposed 1/10 mil elevation turret
  • Throw lever like the 3-15x
The only competition with a 1" tube is the Leupold Freedom AR and that's a pretty appealing option. Add SF, better magnification range, a much better reticle (TMR kind of does everything poorly), and even a little weight savings and you have a winner.

Are these scopes made in Japan as well?
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These are indeed made in Japan.

Personally, I would prefer to keep the objective small, no more than 36mm.  If you want a 40mm or thereabouts objective, just get the 3-9x42 or 3-15x42.

I would not mind having an exposed elevation turret, but given the BDC reticle in the current 2.5-10x32, I am quite comfortable without it.

If I were to add a second model, I would have gone for a similarly sized FFP design with a very abbreviated mrad tree (no more than 6mrad in size) and added an illuminated center dot.  Keep the turrets covered to save weight and cost.  For DMR-type use, reticle holds work fine.  Combine with an offset red dot and you've got a killer DMR setup that is light weight.

That is how I've got my Ultralight set-up right now and it works really well on an accurate 5.56 carbine.

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